Shamann Walton Berate Cadet
Board President Shamann Walton, pictured here in 2019. Photo by Joe Eskenazi

“Shamann fucked up.” 

There, in three words, is a longtime Black San Franciscan’s terse summation of a June 24 incident in which Board President Shamann Walton and a Sheriff’s Department cadet working security at City Hall engaged in an angry, early morning back-and-forth. 

Walton, displeased at the cadet asking him to remove his belt — and claiming a history of being singled out by this cadet, Emare Butler, which Butler denies — lit into him. An extended verbal back-and-forth ensued — and, an eyewitness tells us, Butler “was giving as good as he got.” Walton does not deny that, during the exchange, he used the word n****r, or one of its variants, to express his displeasure. Both he and Butler are Black men.

The board president subsequently called in Undersheriff Joseph Engler to report the incident. A writeup from Engler notes that he admonished Walton for his language, spoke to the cadet and, essentially, that was that. A Human Resources report administratively closed the file and life went on. 

One month later, the story was leaked to the press and it was front-page news — on multiple days and multiple outlets’ front pages. And it’s not going away: Butler said he is appealing HR’s ruling. Mayor London Breed weighed in, stating that Walton owes Butler an apology. And Walton’s “racist” behavior has been latched onto by partisan actors; fervent backers of embattled school board member Ann Hsu have wielded it to deflect from Hsu’s written statements, in which she claimed that “one of the biggest challenges” facing Black and brown children is “lack of family support” and “lack of parental encouragement to focus on learning.” 

This interaction between two Black people has been reported and analyzed — and, now, weaponized — by almost exclusively non-Black people. For the city’s dwindling Black population, even those with little patience or sympathy for Walton, this is galling.

“It’s important for you to acknowledge up front that the translation of this conversation is happening through white people’s lenses and understanding,” a Black San Francisco native tells me. 

“I have no interest in defending or absolving Shamann of his tone and words,” she continues. “His hostility, for lack of a better word, is unacceptable. But, to me, it’s that this is being caught up in so many other racialized conversations — that makes it a bigger thing.” The Walton situation, she says, is being exploited to “fan the flames between Black and Chinese people in San Francisco. And that’s what no one is talking about.” 

“To pretend this is equivalent to the Asian school principal saying ‘n****r’ or the Asian school board member saying Black people come from bad households? That’s very transparently partisan,” says Bay Area political writer Darrell Owens, a Black man who grew up in East Oakland. “When you’re a supervisor, to dress someone down like that is not okay. I don’t care what the issue is. But this is a conversation among Black folks. It’s not a racial issue, and the people making it one are part of the problem.” 

“It’s very transparent how bad racial strife in San Francisco has gotten.” 

When it comes to L’affaire Walton, “I only care what Black people think about this,” summed up a longtime Black San Franciscan. 

With that in mind, I reached out to more than 20 Black men and women — old, middle-aged and young, most all of them San Franciscans, many of them current or former city workers. Some spoke on the record and some did not. Walton and Breed are on hostile terms, and not everyone desired to step between them. 

Regardless, they had a lot to say. 

“It doesn’t bother me. Because Shamann is my n***a,” sums up filmmaker Kevin Epps, who produced and directed “Straight Outta Hunters Point” in 2003. “I don’t even know who the other Black dude is. He might be one of my n***as, too.”   

“In the context of that conversation between two Black people, I don’t see the racism,” Epps continues. “There are a lot of layers in that word. A lot of complexity.”

And, in some ways, what went down between Walton and Butler was complicated. But in some ways, it wasn’t. While it has been reported, now nationwide, that Walton “berated” Butler, there was apparently more to the interaction than that. The eyewitness we tracked down, who worked on the first floor of City Hall and was heading out to get a cup of coffee when the confrontation took place, described a minutes-long, heated back-and-forth. Butler, as noted above, purportedly gave as good as he got. 

“I was struck by how disrespectful the officer was being toward President Walton,” the witness recalls. “After it happened, I told the person I was getting coffee with, ‘I just saw a cop yell at President Walton.’ … I hold law enforcement to a different standard.” 

That’s fair. But Butler isn’t a cop. Or law enforcement. Sheriff’s cadets do not have peace officer powers. They do not carry guns. And Walton was being disrespectful, too. The president of the Board of Supervisors initiated a loud public argument, in which he has admitted to using wildly inappropriate language, with a cadet doing building security. 

“If we take Shamann at face value, he was feeling debased. And that’s why he reached for that word which has been used as a cudgel to debase us by white people,” said a longtime Black San Francisco political observer. “But you’re in City Hall! You’re at work! You’re the president of the Board of Supervisors of San Francisco, California! If something happens to the mayor, you’re next in line to lead our city! You have to manage yourself, period.”

“To be Black in San Francisco is to be very lonely.”

Darrell owens

Multiple media outlets on Friday published surveillance videos of the encounter obtained via public records request. More videos are forthcoming, but sources familiar with City Hall security measures told Mission Local that public cameras do not record audio — and, clearly, audio is the most vital factor here.   

So, just what was said may never be revealed — not by the Zapruder-level public footage, anyway. It may never be clear just how Walton used the terms he used, nor if he threatened to whup Butler’s ass, as the cadet claims. 

That allegation, incidentally, was not included on Undersheriff Engler’s contemporaneous report. 

At City Hall, June, 2020. Photo by Laura Wenus.

Walton has stated that the Sheriff’s Department has long had it in for him, due to oversight legislation he successfully passed. And, while he has claimed that the interaction between himself and Butler was not as “colorful and salacious” as the narrative reported in the press, he has declined repeated requests to explain how. 

“My statement is what I am providing,” he texted to me. 

And yet, in conversations with his City Hall colleagues, the salaciousness gap in Walton’s narrative and the version printed in the papers seems to hinge on just how the word “n****r” was used (it is not clear if Walton used the term “n****r” or “n***a” — a number of Black people stressed to me that there is a distinction, and the former would be taken as a far more grievous insult). 

In conversations with his colleagues, Walton has stated that he used the word generally and self-directed it — as in, why are you treating me like a n****r? — but did not call Butler by this epithet. 

“The behavior Shamann is describing is not unheard of. Whether he handled the encounter properly…”

Longtime black city hall worker

This does not appear to be Butler’s recollection, as a parsing of Engler’s report reveals. 

In the report, Engler states that Walton admitted to describing the onerousness of being made to remove his belt — and, it seems, his perception that he was being singled out — as “some N-word shit.” Butler also recalled Walton using the term “N-word shit.” 

The term both men claim Walton said simply means “some petty, low-class, beneath-me stuff,” said James L. Taylor, a University of San Francisco political science professor with a focus on religious, racial and ethnic history. 

Butler, meanwhile, told Engler that Walton said “It is N-words like you that looks like me that is always the problem.” 

The phrase Butler claims Walton used — which directed the epithet at Butler — is more complicated. “Shamann was talking to him like that because he recognized him as a Black man behind a badge [whom he perceived as] giving him a hard time,” says Owens. 

Here’s Taylor’s read: “One of us is wrong and one of us is right. One of us is authentic and one of us is fake. One is a real Black man and the other is not a legitimate Black man in terms of commitments to the Black community.” 

So, there’s a lot going on here. Walton’s use of this language is not the same as if it were used by his non-Black colleagues, let alone shouted from a pickup truck decorated with Confederate flags and Truck Nutz. But even if it isn’t racist, it’s still insulting

“It’s rude and disrespectful, no matter what color you are,” Butler told the San Francisco Standard.

No Black person I spoke with felt this is the kind of language Butler should endure at work. “There is a power dynamic here,” said a longtime Black city worker. “If I am your supervisor or if I am an official, I cannot use that word. Because we ain’t boys.” 

Nobody, a longtime Black city resident tells me, would be entitled to address him like this at the office: “I don’t care if it’s Morgan Freeman.” 

Shamann Walton talking to Raphael Mandelman, District 8 Supervisor. Photo by Jennifer Cortez, November, 2018.

And the courts agree (although Morgan Freeman was not involved). 

In 2000, the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals found in favor of former jail guard Odis Ross, who had sued his erstwhile employer, Douglas County, Nebraska. Ross was belittled by his former supervisor, Larry Johnson, who repeatedly called him “n****r” and “black boy” and referred to Ross’ white wife as “whitey.” 

Both Johnson and Ross were Black. The duration and severity of the issues in the Ross case would seem to far exceed the reported goings-on in San Francisco but, yes, a Black person can create a hostile work environment via racial language for a fellow Black person.

Black City Hall workers I talked to, meanwhile, are disappointed that this situation has been reduced to an interaction between Walton and Butler. A number of them say they’ve long felt more heavily scrutinized by building security than their non-Black counterparts (though none mentioned Butler). Several told me they’ve ceased entering City Hall through the front door, and instead come in via the loading dock, because it’s less likely they’ll be subjected to “extra ‘precautionary’ steps.” That’d be taking off belts. That’d even be taking off shoes. That’d be taking off your belt and shoes while a non-Black person, wearing a belt and shoes, is whisked through. 

Supervisor Aaron Peskin told the Chronicle that never, in 22 years, had he been made to remove his belt by security. “And I set off the metal detector — not often, but every fucking time, because I have metal in both of my hips,” he tells Mission Local.

One day after the Chronicle article, he says, he was wanded and made to remove his belt. The sheriff’s deputies, it seems, read the paper.  

“As a Black person who works at City Hall, have I been harassed by sheriffs? Yes,” says a veteran city worker. “When I walked through the Goodlett side or, when it was open, the Van Ness side, did this happen to me? Yes. The beeps go off, and they make you keep taking things off until you don’t beep anymore. Those standards are not consistently applied. You do see people walking in ahead of you subjected to a different screening standard.” 

“The behavior Shamann is describing is not unheard of. Whether he handled the encounter properly…” he lets his voice trail off. 

So that’s frustrating. As is the use of Walton’s situation to deflect from Ann Hsu’s woes. That rankles, even for Black San Franciscans irritated by Walton’s behavior. 

“To me, it’s a totally different conversation,” says a longtime Black city employee who accused Walton of “grasping at straws” to “back himself out of a corner.” 

“One is a hostile work environment issue. The other is someone who is supposed to be overseeing education for children who does not have respect for her customers.” Conflating these two issues is “cynical and lazy.” 

But that’s how San Francisco rolls. Every situation is rife for hacks and partisans to exploit to score short-term points. 

“My big takeaway from all this is, I’m disgusted by the types of people, especially in the San Francisco moderate camp, who have been willing to weaponize these race wars for political ends,” sums up Owens. “There is an unwillingness to understand how Black people live in San Francisco … There doesn’t seem to be any empathy for Black people living in the worst neighborhoods and having no economic or institutional power. And, it turns out that, when one SFUSD official does talk about it, what does she do? Blame our families. Blame our culture.” 

“To be Black in San Francisco is to be very lonely.” 

Additional reporting by Eleni Balakrishnan.

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“Your humble narrator” was a writer and columnist for SF Weekly from 2007 to 2015, and a senior editor at San Francisco Magazine from 2015 to 2017. You may also have read his work in the Guardian (U.S. and U.K.); San Francisco Public Press; San Francisco Chronicle; San Francisco Examiner; Dallas Morning News; and elsewhere.

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  1. What exactly is a “moderate”?

    I would say that Walton is a corporate liberal, who frequently endorses and votes for neoliberal causes and legislation (park privatization, etc).

    He stands in the way of corporate conservatives (people who only care about money and status).

    There is nothing “moderate” about these people.

    We can just look at the nighttime sweeps of the unhoused, the unbridled evictions (think Iris Kennedy and Breed’s total inaction), gentrification, sale of our public spaces to “nonprofits” ( San Francisco Botanical Garden Society, Illuminate, Parks Alliance, etc.) to see this in action.

    I would say our “moderates” are pretty damn radical!

  2. Another excellent nuanced piece by my favorite local journalist. Thank you Joe for centering Black voices and also pointing out that 1) this is between 2 Black men and not really about race at all; 2) It is reasonable for a Black man to get upset that he is treated differently from non-Black supes (as a Public Defender, I watch enough body worn camera daily to see cops treating Black people VERY differently and yes, it’s upsetting) though he arguably could have handled it better; so, 3) no one should be berated at work for doing their job by someone with more power than them; and 4) the weaponization of race by the Chinese community when attacking Black people, whose numbers have dwindled so much in SF is only worsening the racial and partisan divide and increasing hostility between two groups that have plenty to gripe about.
    The problem with politics today is the oversimplification of issues. It is so much easier to dumb something down to a simple black and white issue (pardon the pun) than to reckon with gray area… you always reckon with gray area, Joe, and that’s why you rock.

    1. > And Walton’s “racist” behavior has been latched onto by partisan actors; fervent backers of embattled school board member Ann Hsu have wielded it to deflect from Hsu’s written statements,

      Is that worth mentioning if the exact details aren’t worth describing? Note that another commentator has expanded “fervent backers of embattled school board member Ann Hsu” even further to “the Chinese community”. The ink spilled out on the page spreads wider and wider, long after what was originally written has become illegible and been forgotten.

  3. When are you going to investigate Josephine Zhao and the rise of SF’s Chinese right wing?
    During the contentious redistricting meetings Zhao was directing Chinese commenters to say that they “will vote for black supervisors” while asking to gerrymander D10 to effectively dilute the Black vote. But those same voices of support soon changed to accusations of racism and “anti-Asian hate” when they didn’t get what they wanted. On Monday, Aug 8, at the ratification of the declaration of emergency for Monkeypox (a special hearing for the declaration and no other topic,) another group of Chinese callers dialed in accusing Walton of racism and asking for his resignation. Even after being instructed over and over to only comment on the declaration, they continued to interject their claims of racisms.
    Is it too far fetched to take into consideration the report released by the CIA and MI6 that China is mobilizing Chinese citizens abroad and in America through propaganda and memes (Weibo) to disrupt local politics by co-opting the “anti-Asian hate” movement to provoke anger at American politicians (see School Board, Boudin, and now Walton) through claims of “humiliation and racism” and using that as an excuse to mobilize? No, I don’t think it’s far fetched. I mean, even the CIA issued this warning.
    Of course, political opponents to progressives are also piling on too. And on the Redistricting Task Force you had Lily Ho, who was appointed by the Mayor and was recently credited for “galvanizing the sleeping dragon” that made the School recall happen, just look at the voting results map. She made sure to bring up “anti-Asian hate” often enough to make it seem as a passive form of intimidation or bullying despite the fact that what she advocated for actually affected and divided other Asian communities: Filipino, Samoan and even Japantown ran the risk of getting divided.
    I cannot help but notice the awkwardness of Chinese people calling a black person racist for calling another black person the N-word. But it’s just as ridiculous and disingenuous as when Chinese commenters were instructed through talking points and shouting at the hearings to express their support for “black supervisor.” The Chinese community has never taken a stand for other communities, let alone the Black community. These are purely political antics and their impetus could easily be from outside the US.

  4. People should accept Hsu’s apology and Walton’s (it-is-hoped-to-be- forthcoming) apology and move on.

    To not do so would be to assert that people are incapable of learning from their mistakes.

  5. It’s nonsense to pretend that the pro-Hsu forces weaponized Walton’s speech and behavior in order to take revenge when it’s clear that the anti-Hsu forces, including Walton, weaponized her speech in order to take revenge against the School Board and DA recalls.

    And Hsu promptly apologized for her words.
    Walton has yet to.

    Shame on Walton. He broke it, he can buy it.

  6. Question: Who benefits when two marginalized groups such as Asian Americans and Black people are pitted against each other in cheap media war-of-words stories? My answer is, the same people who have been running the show in this town for decades and want to keep the big money flowing their way. Misters Walton and Butler can work out their issues any way they wish, and I would urge them both to be respectful. As far as I’m concerned, the city’s gross income, health and educational inequalities are of much greater importance.

  7. Racial issue can be muddled, but there’s definitely lack of professionalism. Why not treat each other professionally with certain degree of respect. Can’t we resolve this conflict like adults without escalating it into the public sphere?

  8. The Asian principal who was fired/transferred did not “use” the N word, she referred to it. And she apologized profusely.
    Hsu made statements that are arguably true – and are consistent with statements made by the well known racist Barack Obama: https://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/16/us/politics/15cnd-obama.html .
    So now we censure people for opinions? Would the reaction have been different if a Black person had made Hsu’s statement. When Barack Obama decries missing Black fathers not involved with their kids – presumably those fathers are not helping with the schoolwork.
    Walton used the word, he didn’t refer to it. He hasn’t apologized.
    We can’t have different rules for what people can say based on the race of the person saying the words.

  9. I am just an old white guy who has been told to take off my belt many times by both black and white in the City Hall and court building. Big deal. As far as I am concerned this is simply one more stupidly arrogant sf politician showing how important he is. But it would be really helpful if someone could explain why a word that is so disrespectful that it cannot be written out in full is OK to be used, in public, by a segment of the community, as some of those in this story seem to say.

  10. Thank you Joe for your reporting. I flip out in the line at Target. And Walgreens pharmacy. Regularly.

  11. “There are a lot of layers in that word. A lot of complexity.”

    While a lot of people can agree w/this statement, what most people (even those of us who are not “partisan actors,” simply concerned citizens) find troubling is that Shamann Walton ‘chose,’ to be the catalyst through the coincidental timing of his encounter with Butler and his need to be the first to call for Hsu’s resignation.

    If we are to appreciate the layers of complexity for one instance, why aren’t we for the other? The fact that Walton has been silent the whole time – while Hsu has leaned-in – is hard to ignore.

  12. Not sure I embrace the conclusions by Owens in the penultimate paragraph, but they are his and I can listen. Overall I want to give the reporter credit for doing some actual journalistic work here and trying to find some perspective in an overly polarized situation, which I think is necessary. My 2 cents is that the political game here, involving a surprisingly small number of interconnected people with personal egos and motives, has become more important than efffective governance of the city to the detriment of all — but then I don’t have an agenda or cause, just a vote and a property tax bill and a real life to live lol

  13. I see the title changed, but the original title was about how only Black opinions were relevant to this discussion since the dispute was between two African-American individuals (though the quote from the person who said that remains in the article) and voices from people of other ethnicities are irrelevant since no one of those ethnicities was involved. By that logic, given Ann Hsu is an Asian woman commenting on African-American and Latino education, should non-Asian, non-African-American, non-Latino people such as yourself butt out of the conversation since your point of view is also irrelevant?

    1. Dominic — 

      I changed the headline because bad-faith people or people who didn’t bother to read the article were attributing the quote to Walton.

      The rest of your point strikes me as pretty clumsy thinking.

      Yours,

      JE

      1. I read the article and didn’t act in bad-faith. I obviously erred, but there is a possibility the headline was a bit confusing. I don’t remember.

        But Walton will understand – some things aren’t worth apologizing for. No big sweat.

        1. Rosh,

          I agree on all points except for those I disagree with.

          As the Hog Futures Reporter on WKRP once said:

          “I had a girl once but she went away to St. Louis to find herself.”

          These guys should do the same.

          I’m more curious as to why Joe hasn’t peeped a word about Boudin’s call.

          Go Niners !!

          h.

  14. Thanks Joe for another great article. The Board President needs to sort this out himself. It’s nuts that he (and apparently others) had to put up w/ this crap at security. I can totally understand why he lost it, I have a wicked temper myself that gets me into trouble all the time.

    1. Are you kidding? Taking off your belt for the scanner is such a big deal? Just what we need in this current environment. Another easily triggered citizen.

      1. John. It’s deeper then just having to take the belt off. This guy makes PoC take their belt off while white folks walk on through without having to. You see this as a POC then yeah. Take it personal. It’s deeper then just the belt and if you don’t understand that, then you never will and you might want to just sit back.

  15. Wow. The issue here is a superior berating a guy trying to do his job. It’s not about the fact that he used the n-word (although that’s not great), it’s that he was a dick to someone and that’s really unprofessional.

  16. Things really need to change African-American people should stop using the N-word . have to respect for the Asian people as well as the asian people have to have respect for the African-American people as well. by no means Asian senior citizen be attacked , And also Asian people need to stop saying Black people and say some Black people because all Black people are not bad ,look at the employment around at the city and the construction work ,don’t see any African-American people working in the construction industry,

  17. Somebody needs to tell Mr. Walton that public servants don’t have the luxury of only caring about their chosen group people.

    I wonder what black people think of Shamann targeting senior black female teachers with the PAR program while he was president of BOE.

    1. You’re not a sock puppet, which would require you to post multiple comments on the same story creating a false sense of momentum. But you do seem to be attributing a quote to Walton that was, clearly, not said by him.

      It does help to read the stories.

      Yours,

      JE

      1. I did read the article and I know that D Owens said it and not Shamann.
        I’ve actually dealt with Shamann. He’s appears to think he is above the opinion of “others.” In short; he’s an elitist who broze out with Haney & Jacobo and doesn’t serve the people.
        I don’t have a problems with not giving a shit what people think – I taught my own kids to brush almost everything off. But when you’re a public official, you don’t have that luxury. I also think Haney is a bad egg and I’m suspicious of Shamann’s friendship with him. They covered up bad stuff while on BOE. Shamann needs to go get a high-paid consulting gig at Salesforce and stop pretending he cares about people.

  18. Running the gauntlet at City Hall has always been a crap shoot.

    In 2011, Avalos was hosting an art party at his city hall office. I’d arrived by bike early evening. As I went through security, Deputy Sheriff McDaniels, a Black man about my age, determined that I could not bring cannabis flower into City Hall as I’d done for years. He made some comment about how some white guys think that they can get along without conforming.

    When I began to challenge the exclusion, he called for back up and had 5 deputy sheriffs staring me down. I retreated to Daly’s bar on Market to share my story.

    Turns out that Michael Hennessey was sitting at the bar nursing a drink. He said “Hi, marcos, what’s going on.” Funny thing, I said. He pulled out his cell phone and arranged for entry. I headed back to City Hall and enjoyed the party.

    Fast forward a month or two to a mid day hearing at room 263 in City Hall on some pressing land use issue. I’d entered the building through the Grove Street side, as I had gym clothes in my pack that deputies equated with homeless crap, so they made me go through the loading dock for some time. Turns out that McDaniel was running that security station. It was clear to me from his body language that he noticed me.

    I’d wanted to public comment in 263, the room was packed. So I did what I’d done for years, and entered through the front door to fill out a speaker card, planning on waiting in the overflow room until I was called.

    After I’d put the card in the stack, I tried to leave the room. At that point, 4 Black deputy sheriffs collared me and manhandled me to the marble wall adjacent to Ross MIrkarimi’s office.

    The commotion caused Robert Selna, Ross’ aide, to poke his head out. Like Hennesey, Selna, addressed me by name and asked what was going on as my face is pressed against the cold stone.

    Eventually they flexi cuff and escort me to a van on the Grove Street side. After 10 min, a white senior deputy who I’d seen at City Hall for years poked his head into the van and asked me what I was doing in the van. I responded “you tell me.”

    Moments later I was released without legal consequence.

    What are the odds of drawing 4 Black deputies given that 12% of male deputies are Black? Statistically exceptional, huh? Looks to me like McDaniels was upset that I did not kiss his authoritative ass, saw disdain for law enforcement as degrading him by race. And he took steps to teach me a lesson for insubordination to his authority.

    There’s a difference between providing building security and abusing discretion under color of authority to harass. With no effective oversight to deputy conduct, San Franciscans, even the Board of Supervisors President, are subject to random harassment based on the whim of any given individual and the shit they bring to the table.

    This is the opposite of a professional, disciplined law paramilitary operation. For the record: as a pink person, I did not use the N word at any time in City Hall.

    1. Yep, power tripping is very unprofessional. And stupid, because the objective of running security should be about that and nothing more. Personal insecurities and egos need to be left aside, to do their job properly.

  19. Imo, politicians are unwittingly groomed by other politicians to adapt a traditional anglo-saxon-type political behavior. Again imo, this is what Biden was speaking to years ago when he commented Obama was “articulate and bright and clean.” Until JFK jr., the presidency and the scotus had a lock – there was a particular criteria.

    I’m not much cultured, so I loved it when Daly went red and started yelling about cocaine, and when Breed got that snarl and said Willie don’t wipe her ass. And I giggled at Walton’s faux pas. But if a politician says they don’t care what I think, that’s blood in the water.

  20. It’s not racism. It’s one guy being an ahole to another guy and not thinking he needs to obey the rules.

    Need I remind people of the history of metal detectors at City Hall? Remember that a former elected official bypassed security and ended up killing two elected officials.

  21. Asian elders are getting beaten up and killed in San Francisco for no reason other than their race.

    But when it comes to race issues, all Joe cares about is what black people think.

    1. Brent — 

      Thank you for both missing my point and making my point.

      Also, Brent, you’ve been commenting here under multiple names. No sock-puppeting: Please take your business elsewhere.

      Yours,

      JE

      1. Joe,

        Comment above on Chinese intelligence operation at work are doubtlessly spot-on.

        I thought David Ho would succeed Rose Pak but it seems Beiiing is including Ellen Lee Zhou too.

        Walter Wong’s place remains firm.

        Pardon me for, as an observing writer of interesting things, for enjoying the shit out of all this international and racial intrigue dressing up the eternal battle of Good v Evil.

        Pop used to say that he considered religion like a Super Bowl and the fans and teams cared which team won but God owns both teams and only wants a good game.

        Bertrand Russell used to called that thinking:

        “Letting God in the side door.”

        Chinese intelligence is indeed at work here and the Public should be alerted to same.

        They actually had a group here for years; called themselves something like, ‘American Chinese Re-Education Committee’

        Listen to this person’s warning and remember it is a relay from the CIA.

        A few years back the Chinese Embassy in DC sent out busloads of workers to intimidate chinese immigrants and disrupt demonstrations.

        Far as I know, none ever charged or story went away somehow.

        Source of story?

        CIA

        Mainland immigrants to San Francisco have a lot more to fear from the Chinese Consulate’s activities than they do a few black thugs and your reader does us a great service by interpreting Zhou’s instructions.

        Hell, I’m on the woman’s mailing list and I live way way back in the woods across the creek and up the hallow.

        Everyone’s competing to get their messages of hate through.

        What, me worry ??

        Go Niners !!

        h.

        1. Joe,

          Sorry this is so late but I’m betting that Butler will become a Deputy just because of this incident and I wanted to get note to Paul …

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          If Cadet Emare Butler will intentionally do something to irritate a fellow Black man who has risen to the Number Two position of power in San Francisco and even consider suing him ??

          He did this under cover of the Authority given him as a Cadet.

          He abused his position in a sneaky ass way as I’d normally say.

          If he did that to a Black man whom he should be respecting ??

          How do you think he will treat an Asian supervisor or the Sheriff himself who is Asian if he get’s the opportunity ??

          I brought this subject up with Sheriff’s deputies at the front entry to City Hall a couple of hours ago and the White cadet kind of smiled and listened and the older Asian man just waved me off and put on his Stoic face.

          Asked two deputies coming out of elevator in full combat gear (I love shit like that, wearing it always kicked up my testosterone level) …

          Basement of City Hall … A Black deputy (Davis) and an API I’m guessing but I didn’t ask for or get his name cause when I mentioned the question of if Shaman would make the President of the Board of Supervisors of the City and County of San Francisco and one of the most respected men in the entire Black Community to take off his belt because he ((Butler) didn’t trust him …

          That’s a long question isn’t it ?

          But, I’ve always talked fast.

          Just a thought.

          Go Trey Lance !!

          h.

        2. “Mainland immigrants to San Francisco have a lot more to fear from the Chinese Consulate’s activities than they do a few black thugs”

          Condescending and untrue. Is it really so hard to admit that Asian elders getting physically bullied and victimized is a really nasty racist problem that deserves our attention and effort to solve? Strangely racist that you also say “a few black thugs”.

          1. Charlie,

            Carefully planned busloads of Mainland thugs have not only been sent to target new Chinese immigrants to the U.S. but then their families back in China have been targeted.

            You deny that, Charlie ?

            That’s lots worse than disorganized individual haters.

            In China they mark the homes of citizens with computer bar codes that can be accessed like an OR number I guess.

            So, state officials know how to treat residents.

            You an apologist for the PRC, Charlie ?

            Go Niners !!

            h.

    2. Why are you inserting hot bed Asian issues here. Listen, if you want to discuss Asian elders getting beaten up on the streets that’s fine but what you are trying to do is merge three very sensitive issue into this issue. I wonder if you infact want to get anything accomplished. I am hoping, Brent, you want to be part of the solution and not pile on the problem.