Quentin Kopp, left, delivers a speech to supporters of Joel Engardio’s recall on the night of the election as Jamie Hughes and Richard Corriea, right, share an embrace. Otto Pippenger is in center. Photo by Mariana Garcia.

District 4 residents voted in a landslide to oust their supervisor, Joel Engardio, last Tuesday, and the leaders of that recall have made it loud and clear: Mayor Daniel Lurie should tread carefully as he rolls out his proposed citywide upzoning plan.

The political muscle used to recall Engardio in a lopsided vote — of some 21,000 ballots counted as of Sept. 18, more than 62 percent were for the recall — can now easily be turned against Lurie.

“It’s better to not even take a break,” Otto Pippenger, the recall’s campaign organizer, said last week regarding the small army of recall volunteers. “It’s like a band. You’ve got to practice regularly, or people lose interest.” 

Practice, in this case, would mean door-knocking, attending city hearings and town halls, and ensuring Lurie and city supervisors see the recallers in action. The group’s 50 dedicated, weekly volunteers — and 1,000 people on their mailing lists — could be primed to take action. 

Lurie, who must name Engardio’s successor, is in a pickle: He needs a supervisor who can push for his housing upzoning plan by the end of the year. But that’s a tough proposition in homeowner-heavy District 4, where many residents, particularly those behind the recall, vehemently oppose that plan. 

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At a upzoning town hall at the Irish Cultural Center in the Sunset, attendees raised a sign reading “Don’t demolish SF” for a picture. Photo by Junyao Yang.

Lurie was popular in District 4; he won the Sunset handily in 2024. Some 31 percent of District 4 voters ranked him first, and Asian-heavy precincts generally broke in Lurie’s favor.

He stayed silent on the recall in the weeks and months leading up to it and, in a statement posted nine minutes after Engardio conceded, tried currying favor with the Westside.

“As I campaigned for mayor last year, I heard countless Westside families say what San Franciscans have been feeling for years: That their government is doing things to them, not with them, and that government is not working to make their lives better,” Lurie wrote.

Sources say Lurie’s team has reached out to stakeholders such as democratic clubs in District 4, the local Democratic Party and recall supporters in the past few weeks — in one case, on election night — to discuss potential appointees. 

The recallers, for their part, want a supervisor who has history and relationships in the Sunset to put their interests first; someone who will “focus on reopening the Great Highway, stand up to Scott Wiener and the billionaires, and not turn Ocean Beach into Miami Beach,” said Jamie Hughes, the recall campaign manager, on election night. 

“Voters hope that they don’t get betrayed by Lurie,” he said.  

“I’m certain that the mayor will listen to us and appoint a caretaker or appointee who is going to make sure that our values are heard in this period of essential change,” said Pippenger.

Lurie needs six votes to pass his upzoning plan, and ostensibly has at least four: Danny Sauter, Stephen Sherrill, Matt Dorsey, and Bilal Mahmood.

District 1 Supervisor Connie Chan and District 7 Supervisor Myrna Melgar, both representing the Westside, are pushing to add amendments to the plan or pass legislations to cut down displacement risks for tenants and small businesses.  

The plan has been contentious. Progressives are concerned about the lack of protections for tenants, small businesses and historical structures; moderates tend not to welcome changes in their neighborhoods. 

But among the city’s moderate voters, there’s a rift. Some are focused on urbanism, walkability, transit and open space, and others enjoy living in suburban enclaves within the city.

Even those who are against the upzoning plan as-is know that compromise is likely.

“You can’t be unreasonable, coming from the Westside,” said Albert Chow, the owner of Great Wall Hardware and a recall supporter. Lurie, he said, will “think we are just a bunch of crackpots” if the opposition is total.

“We should preserve what’s working,” added Josephine Zhao, the president of the Chinese American Democratic Club and a major backer of the recall. “And we’ll find places where we will have a very chiseled design to carve out some places that allow more growth.”

In the Sunset, where nearly 62 percent of the housing units are homeowner-occupied — compared to 34 percent citywide — and more than half of the households have at least two cars, opposition to the upzoning plan has a stronghold. 

At an upzoning town hall in the Richmond District held a week before the election, former mayoral candidate and Supervisor Aaron Peskin, who is against the mayor’s plan, made a not-so-subtle reference to the recall. 

“I think the mayor is starting to see the light, because when the voters of San Francisco don’t have good options, or are not being listened to,” Peskin said. “They do things like file lawsuits, recall supervisors and put ballot measures on the ballot.” 

David Ho, a political consultant and former longtime Sunset resident, said the real strength of the recall movement will be in its next steps. 

“Are you really that powerful when all you can do is to say, ‘No, no, no, no, no’?” Ho asked. “It’s always easier to be against something than to be for something. But if you want something, then you gotta push for your own initiative.” 

As of last Thursday, only 240 ballots remain uncounted. The Department of Elections expects to certify the election by the end of September. 

The Board of Supervisors will then vote to certify the results, meaning Engardio’s last action as a supervisor could well be the ratification of his recall election. Barring the highly unlikely scenario in which the mayor vetoes the board’s legislation, it will pass with his signature — or without it — following 10 days.

The upzoning, all said, will be top of mind.

“People would feel like they have a say, and the mayor is listening to our voices,” said Selena Chu, a vocal recall supporter and vice president of the Chinese American Democratic Club. “His final decision may not be who we want, but at least there’s a way to express our thoughts.”

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  1. Engardio was not a skilled politician. He lost two or three times when he ran against my supervisor, Myrna Melgar. Maybe he’s finally learned enough to stay out of politics.

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    1. He better stay out of the Sunset too.

      I don’t think I could stand 65% of my neighborhood staring daggers at me knowing I was a shameless baldfaced liar who stole from them, that’d be pretty bad!

      AND SO DESERVED.

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  2. Funny how 99% of the ones who ever supported Engardio don’t live in his district.

    YIMBY tool Billionaire Developer Cash is king uber alles, poor sods.
    Joel is a bad word, it means bribery and lying to people’s faces now.

    We in the Sunset celebrate our liberation from a craven liar – join us!
    If not, don’t be disappointed when we destroy your BS talking points.

    Engardio lost because Engardio lied.

    If Lurie makes the same mistakes, guess what will happen to his political future as well? It’s not rocket science. Democracy requires trust and follow-through.

    Don’t lie to people if you want them to respect you or your plans. Period.

    Making it harder for long-term residents to live here is not a plan. That’s abdication to Wiener’s lies and gentrification priorities. In the Sunset and Richmond, we are not having it. Dan, we are watching. YIMBY BS needs to take a back seat to residents’ needs. If you want a second term or higher office, you will listen.

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  3. We don’t see many people disagreeing with the sentiments express here. Forcing change on people who do not want change is the biggest rallying point in the state. As our representatives continue to ignore their constituents they do nothing to improve the popularity of their party. It is the lack of trust that is gripping the city, state and nation. Who will burst forward with a solution to solve this problem?

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  4. —->>> Lurie, he said, will “think we are just a bunch of crackpots” if the opposition is total.

    Lurie won’t be alone in that view either. Congrats to D4 recall folks for crowning themselves in their D4 sandbox.

    But do you think that your “50 dedicated, weekly volunteers” will deliver you outsized influence on a City-wide issue like this?
    LOL, nope.

    Get out of the way, as San Francisco’s serious people have work to get done.

    P.S. Enjoy your new park!

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      1. What’s refreshing is seeing Joel Engardio run out of town on a rail for being a liar who went against his district and gaslit neighbors against eachother for Billionaire developer money.

        We need more defenestration of such scumbags. First Breed, now Joel.

        The system works!

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      2. If the issue of Prop K returns to the ballot, let the people in that district vote on it, like they did to oust their supervisor.

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        1. Absolutely – and CEQA is required, there’s no disregarding CA laws just because some Billionaire YIMBY tools say it’s legal – it’s not.

          We need to kick these shameless Billionaire-backed “non-profits” right out of town.

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    1. The lawsuit will bring the Highway back – the liars lost, sorry Tito.

      Maybe you and Joel can ride off into the Sunset… of a different town?
      Somewhere he’s not known to be a liar, grifter, and shill for Billionaires.

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  5. Remember the rules the recallers follow so effectively.

    1. Spread FUD. Spread it like manure.
    2. Personally attack anyone who disagrees.
    3. Play victim. Always be the victim.

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    1. You sure you’re not the one playing the victim, lol?

      That sounds like the anti-recallers, if you go by comments here…
      1. Distract from the lies that got Joel recalled
      2. Pretend Billionaires are your friends, locals
      3. Wonder why you got your butts kicked for 1/5 the $, gee? How come?

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        1. Lurie is the Mayor-elect and isn’t London Breed.

          He gets the honeymoon period like everyone.

          What he does with it determines the outcome of the marriage.

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    2. Please dont pick Albert Chow. He is too unstable to be supervisor. Eventually, people in the Sunset need to understand that it’s 2025 not 1955. I had no idea how many crazy people live in the Sunset.

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      1. If stability is determined by lying vs telling the truth, Chow beats Joel hands down all day long.

        I’d take an impassioned truthteller to a stone cold liar all day long, myself.

        But then, I’m not a YIMBY.

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      2. He’s 100% more honest than Joel Engardio and he lives in the Sunset.

        That makes him a viable candidate more than anyone you’d suggest.

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    3. That sounds EXACTLY like what Engardio’s $$$ team did! For those of who were part of the recall, we watched them do that almost daily!

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  6. Alex. Glad to know you and your friends got together over lattes and thought it was a good idea to close down an important thoroughfare for thousands of people in the Sunset, and Richmond and had the rest of the city decide their fate. I would bet my life you’re not from the Sunset or San Francisco for that matter.

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  7. Back in the day, there was a saying-“Stop the Manhattanization of San Francisco.” with Lurie and his gang of develloper, that saying is coming back to haught us. Granted, affordable housing is needed, but there’s lots of public housing in S.F that is functional and is not high rises, nor does it look like public housing aka- projects. Case in point the housing at 22nd and Barlett, as well as the one in Glen Park, on Arbor St.

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  8. I’ll volunteer 20 hours a week if someone starts an “ Anyone but Weiner” campaign when he’s termed out. He cannot bring his corruption to Washington. There’s never been a bigger threat to working family’s way of life than him. He’s never met a developer he didn’t bow too or a project that was oversized and wrong for the neighborhood that he didn’t endorse.

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  9. SF Planning’s own data shows +71,000 permitted, green lit units in the housing pipeline. The City Analyst’s recent audit of existing housing stock shows that 60,000 homes are currently vacant/empty. That’s + 131,000 EXISTING units of housing that are ready TODAY. Lurie and the supervisors would be wise to focus on existing, available housing first!!! Otherwise it’s clear this is a giveaway to real estate investors and speculators.

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    1. Excellent comment and true – why don’t they ever focus on the in-plain-sight solution to the “problem” they invented? Because they ACTUALLY want gentrification and the Wiener “builder’s remedy” BS, they want to move lower income families out and move techno-yuppie transplant YIMBY’s in – because they’re so dumb they’ll fall for anything. It’s easy pickin’s for Billionaires to buy their tiny slogan-fed minds.

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    2. Exactly. The argument that allowing big developers to bulldoze neighborhoods will help lower housing costs is not borne out anywhere.

      (1) As Greeny points out, the population of SF has been declining and housing has been increasing, yet this has not magically resulted in lower housing costs.
      (2) Declining housing costs will actually put a complete stop to all development: Big development relies on loans which they cannot get when house prices are falling.
      (3) The only proven method for reducing housing costs is incremental, small, local efforts by small individual builders or owners. Yet all the city efforts we are seeing are focused on making massive developments easier, and forcing everyone to go through the same process as the deep pocketed big developers. This smacks of big money influence.

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  10. Candlestick stadium was demolished ten years ago. 6000 housing units were to be built along with a soccer stadium and shops. How about a focus on this east side project instead of skyscrapers on the west side. There is a rumor that 900 sq ft units will be built between upper and lower Great Highway. This will involve the closure of the southbound lane of lower Great Highway to make room for these units. The closing of Great Highway is a land grab perpetrated by billionaires.

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      1. The “park” is run by a for-profit cabal, not SF proper, at least until the lawsuit returns it to the Highway it always has been and always will be.

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        1. That’s how it’s going to go. At least that’s will be the story for this year. But then a plot twist: just like Ed Lee, the appointed supervisor will run for reelection. And then they’ll get $100K of developer donations, and use it to run a campaign that’s very quiet on development and zoning but very loud on “law and order and clean streets”. This will hand them an easy win over anyone with nuanced, real positions. They will then use the office to redevelop the hell out of D4 and pole vault into being the next mayor, while the district howls and tears its hair out again.

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          1. Oh hell no, lol. You’re looking backwards in time, not forwards. If Engardio beat the recall it might be a different story, but he didn’t. He got his ass handed to him. Dan Lurie isn’t about to turn 2 districts completely against him, he’s no moron.

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        2. Then Lurie loses the Sunset and Richmond voters when he comes up for reelection. I don’t think he’s quite that stupid.

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    1. And this “rumor” is based on what exactly? It’s completely and utterly made up. No part of the zoning plan includes anything of the sort, it would be completely impossible under both local law (the charter prohibits the use of park land for any non-park purposes, including housing) and state law, and zero people have even proposed such a thing.

      The closing of the Great Highway was a bunch of Outer Sunset neighbors who enjoyed it during the pandemic, got together as volunteers to improve their new park and put on fun free events like the Great Hauntway, and thought it would be nice to keep it. Not everything is some kind of bizarre billionaire real estate conspiracy, and the misinformation on this issue is utterly out of control. Sometimes it’s just neighbors meeting each other and volunteering to try to make the neighborhood park a better place for everyone.

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      1. Skipping CEQA illegally was Scott Wiener’s ploy. Who funded it?

        Billionaire developers. YIMBY tools. Not “a handful of locals” lol.

        Call it a conspiracy or not, it’s a for-profit cabal.

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        1. Ok but that’s just a string of conspiratorial thinking. You claimed that there are plans to build “900 sq ft units” “between upper and lower Great Highway.” Somehow you claim to know the precise square footage of these alleged apartments, yet you have absolutely zero evidence to back up your utterly untrue “rumor.” It doesn’t even make any logical sense. Why would developers trying to build on the Great Highway want the land designated as a park when that triggers even stronger legal protections against development? Why did people who obviously would not support high-rise real estate development on the beach, like Dean Preston or the Surfrider Foundation, support the park?

          I am beyond sick and tired of you and others like you spreading this misinformation about our neighborhood. Hundreds of volunteers helped with Prop K simply because we liked the park during COVID and wanted to make it a better place and keep it. Volunteers have put thousands of hours into caring for the park and putting on free events like the Hauntway because we care about our community. I fully respect that not everyone shares the same vision for the Great Highway as me, and that’s perfectly ok, but what I can’t tolerate is this bizarre compunction to make up lies that the volunteers trying to care for a nice park for our neighborhood are secret billionaire real estate developers.

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          1. You don’t admit that Billionaires donated ~all the money that liar Joel spent 5x more than his recallers of, as well as the “friends of bullshit park” fake Private Equity group?

            So are you illiterate or is it willful ignorance?

            Yes, when people of means group together to pool dark monies with the purpose of undermining state law, CEQA, that’s rightly called a conspiracy OR a cabal. They are not your friends, YIMBY tools.

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          2. ” You claimed that there are plans to build “900 sq ft units” “between upper and lower Great Highway”

            Where exactly did you read that? You’re confused, I never said that.

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      2. Prop K was pushed by Billionaire $ and included lies and misinformation.
        Fact. You can squirm around on the issue but that’s the facts.

        The Sunset rejected the liar, the lawsuit will handle the lies.

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    2. @Karen Warren – But wait, that absurd rumor is different from the earlier absurd rumor which is itself different from the earlier absurd rumor. What to believe?

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    3. Hell no. The west side already upzoned the east side with terrible consequences.

      The west side needs to heft its freight by bearing its share of the burden of meeting the targets of the State Senator they forced on the east side who is a YIMBY tool.

      You break it, you bought it.

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      1. I’m curious… what do you see as the terrible consequences of the east side upzoning? I know you are adamantly against the new construction on 16th street near the school, but that seems to be more bc of the bait-n-switch over the usage of that project, not the project itself.

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    4. Karen, isn’t new residential development supposed to be close to transportation?

      Given that the local transportation was just closed, how can these new homes be justified?

      So I agree, build up on the east side, which has 3 freeways, BART, CalTrain and ferries.

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      1. And the entire southern-central portion of the city that is freeway adjacent, has much cheaper prices than more built-up areas, lower incomes comparatively, and much greater need for local retail outlet spaces. It’s a non-de-brainer, but the YIMBY hive mind pretends we have to kick long term renters and SFH owners on the west side out to make more yuppie condo towers, as if that actually lowered housing prices for anyone?

        YIMBY = massive scam perpetuated on us all, including the supporters.

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        1. Upzoning has already screwed the east side. It is past time for the west side to heft its share of the freight as their rock solid history of voting for Scott Wiener and Dan Lurie demand.

          Fact: land use is nowhere near as volatile an issue on the west side as closing the great highway, especially in a general election.

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          1. True and true, but the people are at least momentarily awakened by the recall in D4. The towers are 90% unpopular even if people agree that we need housing, because the devil is always in the details – WHO IS THE HOUSING FOR? Yuppie transplants who make over 200k, with 10% for people who make about 100k. That’s it. Nobody supports that because nobody believes that’s actually lowering rents or housing prices for anyone – BECAUSE IT DOESN’T AND NEVER HAS.

            The YIMBY lie is exposed thus, and if we make that point plain as day we can beat them. People power. It still works.

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