Foes of the successful measure to close San Francisco’s Great Highway to cars said today they will file a lawsuit Tuesday aimed at invalidating Proposition K, which shut down Upper Great Highway in order to convert it into an oceanfront park.
The suit will target the city, its Board of Supervisors and, specifically, the five current and/or former supes who put Prop. K on the ballot: Joel Engardio, Myrna Melgar, Dean Preston, Rafael Mandelman and Matt Dorsey.
The plaintiffs are former District 7 candidate Matt Boschetto, who ran an independent expenditure committee that put more than $260,000 into fighting Prop. K concurrently with his campaign against Melgar; hardware store owner Albert Chow (an outspoken opponent of closing the Great Highway); and the nonprofit LivableSF.
The nonprofit was incorporated by another Prop. K foe, Vin Budhai, in August of last year. Its articles of incorporation list LivableSF’s purpose as “promoting social welfare and improving urban living in San Francisco” and promoting “sustainable transportation solutions.” Budhai is the co-organizer of an ongoing recall campaign against District 4 supe Engardio over his spearheading of Prop. K.
Reached for comment, the plaintiffs said they would speak at a press conference scheduled for noon on Tuesday at 22nd Avenue and Irving Street. Jen Kwart, a spokesperson for the city attorney, said that “once the lawsuit is filed and served, we will review the complaint and respond in court.”
The suit, represented by attorneys Jim Sutton and Eli Love, claims that Prop. K is “legally invalid” as “the State of California has preempted the field of traffic control and roads and state law precludes actions by voters in local elections which relate to road closures.”
That, the suit continues, would mean that Prop. K, which “effects a ‘partial’ closure of the Upper Great Highway,” is in violation of the state vehicle code regarding the closure of roadways. The suit also claims that the city skirted the California Environmental Quality Act which, plaintiffs claim, should have resulted in the creation of an environmental impact report related to the “project.”
The suit charges the five members of the board with having “stepped on the toes of the state’s plenary authority over traffic control and roads” when they “unlawfully placed a measure before voters that was not in the voters’ power to decide,” while also blowing off CEQA requirements.
The crux of the plaintiffs’ case rests in the text of state Vehicle Code section 21101(a)(1). Municipalities are entitled under this code to close a highway when the local legislative body determines it is “no longer needed for vehicular traffic.” But plaintiffs claim the city violated the rules in creating a “partial” closure: Prop. K “explicitly allows transit vehicles, emergency vehicles, official government vehicles, and other authorized vehicles to continue driving on the Upper Great Highway.” These exemptions, the suit continues, “directly contradict the voters’ finding … that the Upper Great Highway is ‘no longer needed for vehicular traffic.’”
The Planning Department in July determined that “CEQA does not apply to a measure submitted to the voters by the Mayor or 5 Supervisors.” The suit states that “this determination was made in error.” Ballot initiative petitions originated by voters do not trigger CEQA requirements, the suit concedes, but plaintiffs contend that measures placed on the ballot by four or more supervisors are not exempt.
The plaintiffs additionally claim San Francisco usurped state authority under the vehicle code due to the “regional nature of highways and roads.” Because the Upper Great Highway served residents hailing far from the Outer Sunset, “Prop. K was unlawfully put before the City’s voters because it pertains to a matter of statewide concern.”
Prop. K was approved by 54.7 percent of the voters. The Upper Great Highway’s final day of car traffic is scheduled for March 14.
“We are confident that the City Attorney’s office will defend the will of San Franciscans against this baseless lawsuit,” said Lucas Lux of Friends of Ocean Beach Park. “Meanwhile, we are excited for the park to open in April, so thousands of San Franciscans can begin enjoying the coastal park they voted for.”
Good grief what is wrong with these people? They sued the city in 2021 and promptly lost. They ran a ballot measure in 2022 and lost big. They tried to end it at the Board of Supervisors in 2022 and lost 9-2. Then they appealed three times to both the city and state and lost. Then they lost at the ballot box by 10 points in November. Then they started trying to recall their Supervisor. Now they’re suing the city again?
It takes a lot of contempt for democracy to keep throwing nonsense at the wall like this to overturn the repeated will of the voters.
I voted to close the highway, but I understand why some people feel differently. That said, the rhetoric coming from prop K opponents is absurd. It is, as you say, contemptuous of democracy. They’ve lost in every conceivable way, on an issue that frankly isn’t that important. If the highway closure is so awful, let everyone see that, and I’m sure you’ll win on the next proposition! All this talk about lies is just bull. I wasn’t confused at all about what a closure would entail, and I don’t think anyone else was either.
What’s absurd about upholding proper CEQA reviews and the law?
The questions these transplants simply can’t seem to answer.
Good grief what is wrong with these liar-backing people?
Nor do they try? It’s absurd.
Democracy to them, does not matter if they can’t get their way.
Truth doesn’t either.
We hammer in the point and rally the city, and pass. But they’re going to be sore losers to try to get their way.
Don’t half ass the point and keep hammering it hard, not soft.
Because if you do, you’ll never appease them.
This is the code they say has been violated. I dont see how they have a point but it’s their right.
https://codes.findlaw.com/ca/vehicle-code/veh-sect-21101/
It’s very obvious how they violated CEQA using a loophole that doesn’t apply, and it’s also very obvious that they want to continue to lie and use that loophole to develop the entire Sunset without regulatory approval or input from the local community, as they did with K.
CEQA is law and was illegally bypassed, deal with the truth anytime.
Bicyclist militants will never be appeased, fully agree. Ephem.
@Ephem – That pesky Lady Falcons Bicycle Club, it’s like they’re perpetrating some kind of WAR ON CARville.
The question is why do they think they have a right to decrease public safety without a CEQA review, using a loophole that they even admit they are abusing? If they get away with it here, where does that end?
It’s almost like this was extremely unpopular out here and is a major disruption to our lives. Maybe as if closing the highway pushes all the traffic along the side street, making the neighborhood much more dangerous. Perhaps these people don’t like chain of lakes bumper to bumper all weekend, so they can no longer go for a peaceful walk?
I guess you have the attitude wrt to Trump and Elon, we should all just roll over now that we lost an election?
“Good grief, lying to voters is something we can sue over?”
As a former Sunset District resident, I support the long time residents there. I drove a car in San Francisco for decades. Loved driving the Great Highway to & from the city and the Peninsula. These money stealing “Liberals” crack me up. The gaslighting & schemes they come up with. Lol. Find out who’s getting rich off this BS. For reals.
Prop K was based on provable lies, pushed at the last minute without community input, and costs more than they said it would. They lied. You understand this so far or not? You can’t lie and expect not to be called on it.
I keep hearing, in innumerable comments on every ML article about the subject, that there were “lies” behind the proposition. Yet I’ve never once seen any of the people pushing that line specify what one of those supposed lies was.
Where’s the lie? If there was one, I’d be curious to know about it.
The lies have been specified and there are dozens of them. Read harder. They lied about how long the road was closed due to sand per year, how much it cost to remove sand, how much the plan would cost, who the plan would allow to build what, who would pay for it, who paid for it in the first place, how it bypassed CEQA illegally, it’s all there for you to investigate. But you won’t. You want something, and that overrides your better faculties.
That’s a little closer, but still doesn’t identify any actual thing an actual person said. It’s just a vague “they” and a long list of general subject areas. Nobody is going to be convinced by that who isn’t already convinced.
Oh plus a new helping of vitriol aimed this time at me, a person on the Internet who just asked your crew for facts. That’s not terribly convincing either.
Look, I even went and did some of your work for you: I went back and looked at the official proponent’s argument in the voter information pamphlet for this election. There’s not a word there — lie or otherwise — about how much the road is closed by sand. And the only things they say about how much things cost before, or would cost with the new plan, are just pointing at what the city controller’s office said on the page before that.
If these lies actually happened, there must be someone out of the people enraged about this who’s written it down somewhere. The bare essentials would be who said the lie; what they actually said; and why that’s wrong. If anyone can post a link to such a thing, that has a far better shot at being persuasive than yet more posting of incoherent rage.
“That’s a little closer, but still doesn’t identify any actual thing an actual person said.”
Engardio lied at least 100 times, do your own homework or don’t but we’re not your slaves, transplant yuppies.
So they refuse to investigate and shrug their shoulders like it’s up to everyone else to google for them, in this forum. Typical Bernal Yuppies.
LMAO I love when you destroy these dunces with facts and all they can do is cry and downvote.
Facts, transplants.
Read better? It’s explained dozens of times here.
You live in the Sunset? Then you voted against this 2/3. If you don’t, you aren’t affected by the significant changes to your personal safety that were based on lies told by Joel Engardio and his team of Billionaire developers. You can use any of San Francisco’s 480+ parks to do whatever you want already, without giving away the outer Sunset and Richmond to developer interests that don’t care who gets run over.
“you aren’t affected”. Yeah right. Reality is, running this new park doesn’t happen in a vacuum, it happens within the confines of Rec&Park’s operational budget. Which is perpetually tight. So, if you enjoy Rec&Park amenities in your neighborhood, going forward, you’ll find them competing with this massive new park.
Rec and Park has been corrupted since Newsom times. Ginsburg is a crook.
Great! Sad to see people trying to usurp the will San Franciscans and the democratic process with a baseless lawsuit after the city overwhelmingly voted for the park. Instead, they could try relaxing with a nice walk in the park!
Larsen, is it?
It actually wasn’t. Or did you think $5 million = $250,000? Besides, we’ve been walking the beach for decades before you “techie overlords” showed up and tried to ruin our city for personal profit, privatizing the commons for Billionaires. We’ve seen you come and get thrown out already, are you this new?
Stop wasting San Francisco’s and California’s resources on these lawsuits! Where do these groups get all this money to sue the city? How many times have they tried and lost? People living in the Sunset and the Richmond do not own the land, San Francisco does. And San Franciscans have been repeatedly clear they want it to be a park. It is time to accept the democratic process and the will of your neighbors. Consider taking a walk in the park, it can help.
Stop whining. People have a right to sue to enforce the law. Don’t like it? Tough.
Unhinged.
http://www.phoenixprojectnow.com/phoenix-review/blog/joel-engardio-s-prop-k-fiasco
Lying to voters is so slay.
Sore loser doesn’t begin to cover this
The sore loser will be Engardio to the 2/3 of his constituency for his lies.
Deliberately lying to voters should be a crime. Do you disagree?
Good lord. You lost. Repeatedly. Have some grace and respect the will of the voters. I won’t be able to make it to the press conference, but I hope someone throws these turds back into the Pacific.
Actually in the Sunset and Richmond, the districts affected, YOU LOST. That’s even after the provable lies in Prop K that are being litigated now. YOU support LOSERS who LIED.
A vote for Prop K was not an endorsement of anything other than the contents of the proposition. Additionally, at no point did I mention how I voted.
Frankly, I’m getting pretty sick of your insinuations and personal attacks. Take that behavior elsewhere.
“A vote for Prop K was not an endorsement of anything other than the contents of the proposition.” – Yes and no, given how it was put on the ballot with Billionaire money backing it at the very last minute to avoid both proper review under CEQA and community input and opposition. They blew away an existing compromise that pleased all parties most of the way. That’s called compromise. Prop K did away with it. So a yes on Prop K was basically an FU to 2/3 of both affected districts. Whether you realized it then or not, realize it now.
“Sore loser alert” – get run over in the outer anytime? It’s about safety you troll.
Sore loser alert lol.
Besides, the funding for Great Highway is funded by the city’s taxpayers.
It doesn’t matter at all, that Sunset and Richmond voted against closing it, it only matters to the taxpayers at large who borne the cost of maintaining anyways.
B we don’t need you to alert us to your presence when you have nothing substantive to say. Tito’s already got that job.
What a waste of time and money. It’s pathetic that these folks are so blinded by their rage against Engardio that they can’t even understand that the road was going to close anyway because of erosion. Even if Engardio hadn’t changed his mind, it wouldn’t have mattered – the road would still have been closed.
https://www.sfpuc.gov/construction-contracts/construction-projects/oceanbeach
<pEven more ironic is that it's their own addiction to car culture that's driving the erosion, and thus the road closure, in the first place. Anyone driving their car every day for job/school/work is doing it wrong. Commuting from Marin to south of San Francisco is an environmental crime.
San Franciscans own this road and San Franciscans pay for it. It’s up to all of us to determine it’s use and that has been decided over and over again. Get a grip, Prop K haters. Stop the madness!
I would pay good money to see the City close Upper Great Highway early… perhaps on Tuesday at 12pm. During the press conference. Now *that* would be great TV.
Yeah, let’s make the city waste more money on unnecessary litigation instead of spending it on crucial services for the whole town. I heard the city’s budget is in great shape these days! Screw the city and the rest of its residents, right? As long as some few can have it their way. Good job, people! What a great example of humanity and love for the city.
another claim of a stolen election by the losing party.
all hands, brace for impact!
No, just a CEQA violation and misapplication of law. Learn to read better kid.
I have tried to find out where the money is coming from to build the UGH into a park. Rec & Park said it came from City Hall. The Mayor’s Office said they don’t know, Carmen Chu, SF City Administrator’s office said to call Eduardo’s office as well. With our City’s financial difficulties why is this money being used for this effort and where is it coming from. Concerned resident’want to know
Meanwhile, every inch of SF that touches the Pacific Ocean and the Bay to Little Marina Green is and was already a park paid for by the federal government.
Especially in light of the fact that the Richmond may lose the 31 and have cuts to the 5. Or like during the pandemic when they cancelled the 18 and closed the road. We are just supposed to stay at home with no way to leave.
One might think that this is a sore losers lawsuit that has a slim chance but Jim Sutton is no idiot and he usually wins.
Safety first!
Yep, close one of the safest roads in SF and push 20k cars a day on to Sunset, called deadly by the orgs for decades, and other residential streets. Visionzero or zerovision, what one is it again?
Point of clarity on your article. Prop K did not create a park. All prop K did was close the Upper Great Highway, nothing else. There was no money allocated to create a park. Its just open space. There will be zero savings in maintenance costs, because the city will still need to maintain the roads for emergency vehicles. So, the costs are still there, the road is closed, and there is no park. So far the entire budget for the park is privately donated money totaling $1.5m. For a space that large, that is nothing. Its sad that the voters were misled to believe that they were getting a park and saving money.
Wow, Us, Them.
Us: high density housing, Them: single family homes.
Us: mass transit , Them: car culture.
Us: homeless druggy crazies, Them: not in our neighborhoods.
Us: more parks , Them: how dare you close “our” road.
Not all true all the time but people on the west side of town should listen to yourselves.
“Us: Lying to voters for Billionaire $ Them: Suing to apply the law as it exists”
You left out:
Us: NIMBY’s who push vehicles off a highway when there’s one of the biggest parks in the country one block away.
Good! Commuters from San Mateo and Marin counties had no say.
Pushing more traffic on neighborhood streets is unsafe and not environmentally sound
There’s a perfectly good bike path that can be widened and a beautiful safe promenade already.
Dirty politics by Melgar and clan
Hooray for the lawsuit and to all you self-centered idiots complaining that it “subverts democracy,” what about the 14,000+ folks who use it everyday, the vast majority of whom live in Marin or San Mateo Counties and just want to get across SF? When do they get to participate in this decision?
Yes!!! This lawsuit needs to succeed. Cheap shot politicians sneaking in a ballad on the last day with no discussion with the residents. There’s a reason why the vast majority of westside residents are against this unorthodox proposition. And there’s a reason why it’s mainly transplants voting for this illegal vote.
Thank you Matt Boschetto, Mr. Chow, Vin Budhai, and LivableSF, as well as the attorneys representing the plaintiffs of this case, for being the only ones truly looking out for us western residents, families, and seniors that use this highway daily for commute. Thank you for thinking about the people before profits, unlike Joel Engardio, Lucas Lux, Myrna Melgar, Dean Preston, Rafael Mandelman and Matt Dorsey of the pocket-fattening commission.
So, sue Mom !!
Mother Nature should definitely be a defendant here.
Or, her pop, God.
They keep melting the Polar Ice Cap and causing this.
And, what about the rights of the Indians who lived here and were murdered or enslaved ?
Jim Sutton should use his massive skills (far better than Wiener) on behalf of the Ohlone to demand that the City partner with them in remaking the Armory into an Indian Casino.
Did you know that the Armory is bigger than Harrah’s in Vegas ?
Uh huh, 179,000 for Harrah’s and 200,000 square feet for the Armory.
go Niners !!
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Closing the road does EXACTLY NOTHING for the environment or global warming. They lied and the unthinking lapped it up in the performative fashion they do things now.
I love the smell of prop K opponents salty tears in the morning. Let them cry those salty lil’ tears – it’s the people’s park now, bitches! 🤣
When is Shrinkage Park supposed to open again?
The ocean view walkway was not included in Prop. K?
Prop. K, “In response to the unprecedented COVID-19 pandemic, and in
order to provide safe open space for people to recreate, Maximize
ocean views and scenic coastal vistas”. Vista, “Distant view through
or along an avenue or opening” No Ocean View walkway mentioned in
Prop.K. How do first responders find victims if they cannot see?
INTERESTED in what is really happening to San Francisco fix it
program, including Ocean Beach?
the intentionally expensive designed blockages of major and
minor attractions and safety compromises in San Francisco be how the
money is being spent?
Looking east toward Oakland down Market St the Embarcadero freeway
was dismantled in part to enjoy the Ferry building. Now openly hidden
between transit rails, in front of the Ferry Building, millions of
dollars have been spent for “Creative blockage”. Location of public
toilets to sculptures, traffic and transit signs.
Palm Trees, the height of the old Embarcadero Freeway have taken the
place of the Embarcadero freeway preventing any possible way to
photograph the Ferry Building. Many Palm Trees used for this city wide
blockage “ART”.
Walk along the San Francisco waterfront, north, no view of water
is visible. Between cargo piers. All visuals of the bay have been
removed. Hot Dog concession stands are well positioned.
Coit Tower, a monument to 1906 earthquake firefighters can be seen
being covered by well placed tree growth as well as Palm trees along
the Embarcadero.
Continuing north along the Embarcadero Fisherman Wharf is no longer
able to be seen because of a huge ferris wheel. Alcatraz is no longer
visible from Fisherman’s Wharf. Cargo containers, well placed
concession stands, sculptures, ferris wheel, traffic designs.
Name it all methods are used to.block bay views while walking along
the Wharf. Not cheap for this visual blockage production. .
The Palace of Fine Arts is getting harder to find behind well placed
growing trees.
Golden Gate Park JFK drive, now a walkway, cannot be photographed
because of a well placed visual Big Yellow chair. Why is the yellow
chair positioned in this manner, for photo blockage? Blockers are big
in sports. Is this a sports game to someone?
Historic Sharon Art Studio Building in Golden Gate Park, Built in
1888, it originally served as a canteen for children and mothers
visiting the Golden Gate Park Children’s Quarters, view has been
blocked by a recent light post front and center.
San Francisco Lawn Bowling greens have now become overheated danger
zones , for seniors, because bushes now prevent airflow on the east
side facing the ocean breeze.
Walking past the big yellow chair, west on JFK Dr. GGP’s
Conservatory of Flowers does not have a front and center photograph
because of the center walkway reflective Disco ball”. Along with
tall brush, trees prevent a panoramic photo view of the Conservatory.
A tall dead tree stump is the backdrop at every angle.
Large children fun blocks that are unable to climb are positioned
next to Conservatory of Flowers, again, background, visual of the
same tall branchless dead tree.
Golden Gate park music concourse has changed trees. Trees, mostly
London plane and Scotch elm, heavily pollarded to give a very regular
and formal appearance to the plaza’s spacious setting have been
removed and replaced by a thick grove of Palm trees having yearlong
large branches. The Plaza now dark and viewless, one cannot see mthe
stage or plaza, or sky. The aquarium is blocked by a well placed
ferris wheel along with tall bushes and trees. No visual ability to
enjoy entrance to the Aquarium.
Try to find the Polo Fields, great bush blockage.
Ocean Beach is going through what much of San Francisco is going
through, blockage of views. Recently bulldozers created dunes, along
with plants to prevent the Great Highway walk from having an ocean view.
Prop K did not mention Ocean view, ADA walkway view! The ocean view
walkway was not included in Prop. K? Dunes blocking the view of the
ocean?
No blockage is necessary. East of the walkway, a dune blockage should
exist., sorry cannot have visual enjoyment.
Now One million dollars have been allocated to completely eliminate
any view, not build an ADA scenic ocean walkway. Coastal walkway with
no Ocean view, because dunes block not support, is this for real?
Try Find the zoo’s grand stone entrance, the Fleishacker family
built! It is fenced. Lake Merced is now beginning to be blocked with
new tree plantings. Try to see Mt. Davidson’s cross.
School safety has been compromised. School yards are now being
blocked by trees so yard monitors are no longer able to see who is
approaching, two blocks away. Standard safety practice. Return of
the “peeping Tom” or worse. I am a former school yard administrator.
The list keeps growing and gets more creative. If the goal is to deprive visual
enjoyment of San Francisco, including manipulating Ocean Beach
development, and creatively use millions of dollars of public money,
without regard for safety, meant for homeless and drug problems then
it is succeeding!
@stan – There were bushy deciduous trees (Lombardy Poplars, maybe?) on Pee-Wee Herman Plaza before the freeway came down. The Canary Island Palms actually block less of the view.
Pollarded trees on the Music Concourse also block sightlines lower to the ground, whereas the palms’ fronds are higher up.
This has nothing to do with anything.
I hope those that are responsible for putting forward Prop K will be held responsible for causing this disruption. We really needs the roads fixed, not another thing to battle out, eating money and time.
Lucas Lux. LOL!
I don’t think there should be a recall of Engardio over prop K (which I voted against) but if there is I’ll gladly vote to oust him because he’d happily see almost all rent controlled/affordable existing housing demolished in favor of high priced luxury apartments and condos. AND he worked with the right wing to oust the school board and chess which enabled right wing takeover of SF, who are now going soft on Trump. Karma baby!!!!
Holy crap. You’ve named all of those illicit activities and still think he should be in any position of power? Why SHOULDN’T there be a recall?
RIGHT? He’s the recall kid! He came in calling for recalls!
Great Highway does not belong anti car/walk bike advocates young groups. Like opponents factually said, it belongs to all users
Stop messing with GREAT HIGHWAY wikipedia
Even as a bike rider, I’ve never sided with the anti car mobs. Because anti-car, usually means anti-traffic flow. So they hinder what they can, and create a dangerous infuriating situation for those on the road. It doesn’t make anything safe. Because they aren’t pushing to hold those being dangerous accountable. Only by arresting the offenders, can any meaningful improvement can be made.
@Cadence – That’s some DARVO right there.
This is amazing news. Let’s save the Great Highway. This guy went behind our backs after we voted him in because he said he was against closing the highway, then he turned around and stabbed us all on the back by pushing this prop K madness. Totally sold us out. I am so happy to read this. Recall Joel Engardio. I went to his opening ceremonies at great highway and Noriega weekend before last and there were only 30 people there for the announcement in a typical sunless foggy windy sunset district day, which is what it’s like 75% of the year out this way. I don’t know what they are talking about thousands of people waiting for this to open. It was unanimously voted against by our two neighboring districts and only won because the east side of the city’s residence were duped by the wording of “ New Park” on the ballot which was totally misleading. All they plan on doing to the road is shutting down for cars (because the bicycle coalition has so much power in this city, donate so much money to changing the roadways and infrastructure of this City. Putting a few benches and murals and a couple calisthenics exercise stations like they already have on Sunset blvd does not constitute a park. All of which they could have done on the already existing pathway if they really had a budget for this but they do not or they would have just refurbished the already existing pathways. This is far from a “Park”. Had they properly been educated the east side of the city on the situation I’m sure they would have voted against it unanimously .
I’m a Engardio fan, but Prop K was against his own constituents. I cannot comprehend how a thoughtful and decent moderate push for closure of the great highway. What the heck Joel?
We have a whole beach to walk on, and access to the road at w’ends. That seems like plenty.
I live in the East side of town and voted no on Prop K. Hope the plaintiffs & sunset residents get their major road back.
They should subpoena for review the process Engardio and Breed and the rest of the conspirators undertook to submit their Billionaire-backed developer land grab at the very last minute, rife with outright lies and +5x misstatements of factual data, blowing out promises to support the existing compromise that most begrudgingly supported for all parties’ benefits. Engardio doesn’t just deserve to be recalled, he deserves to be investigated and censured in the meanwhile. They should immediately injunct Prop K based on prima facie falsehoods and bad faith, period, and let a new process replace that effort – this time legally, in good faith and with respect to the integrity and rights of all constituents. They deliberately lied to skip the entire actual process we have for these things, and it’s time to be held to account for lying to the people who elected them – and to wit, all those who have massive free money to spend pushing lies to get what they want, the laws be damned. We need to stand up to this on both sides of the political aisle, right now. A liar is a liar.
“Conspirators! Billionaire backed! Rife with outright lies! Investigated and Censured! Massive free money to spend pushing lies!”
Good lord. You lost. Get over it.
Listen to yourselves, if we were at a bar or on a bus…I’d move away from you.
Lmao, “billionaire” backed with the progressive supervisor that’s as anti-billionaire as can be, in tow.
What a joker.
When the vote is based on a lie, YOU lost supporting it. YOU back losers who need to LIE and play games with dark money, not us. Poor Tito.
Actually, look into it if you care more than you enjoy the safety of your echo chamber. The yes on K was heavily funded by billionaires and other wealthy individuals. This trend of the financial elite is ruining democracy, wouldn’t you say?
Your argument is that Dean Preston conspired with billionaires to ruin democracy by creating a new park? Really? Does that seem like a remotely plausible series of events?
Look into it Engardio minion.
Pooor Tito can’t find anywhere else to gentrify, aww.
This highway is very therapeutic drive. All parties should obey the rules of road. Speed limit , using crosswalks, and obeying the lights. There is giant park and beach called Golden Gate Park and Ocean Beach respectfully. Fort Funston. Pacifica has 3 or 4 beaches. How much do you people want who don’t live in the neighborhood.
Ignore the rest of the comment.
The only thing that matters to them is this:
“How much do you people want who don’t live in the neighborhood?”
The translation is, “Sunset parks are for Sunset only. Stay in your own district.”
Ignore the lawsuit too, and the recall. Just ignore SF, go back to NYC with your failed carpetbagger who lies as often as he breathes and pretends it’s always fresh air coming out.
THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT! We ALL were all lied to on several counts.
No it wasn’t closed “half the year” because of sand, try 14 partial days.
No they didn’t spend 2-5+ million on shifting the sand, more like 250k.
No they didn’t upgrade traffic or study in reality the safety effect of this,
THEY ARE LIARS and they are entirely funded by non-local Billionaires.
If they DO actually care about the Snowy Plover, public safety, the budget, or their proven veracity as agents of public interest, LET THEM SHOW IT IN COURT. This is what we needed, fact finding and a public display of what took place – and who paid for it all, against the RIGHTS of the local constituents who are affected.
Engardio may God have mercy on your crooked soul you lying bastard, and I say that as a CONSTITUENT who has been LIED TO long enough. Basta, crook!
“Engardio may God have mercy on your crooked soul you lying bastard…”
Glad to see you’re taking your loss in such calm and measured fashion!
I’m sure God is very concerned about your ability to drive your car wherever and whenever you want.
Aww, you like being lied to then, good for you tito. We do not.
It’s not really clear to me where any of the claims you cite come from. Where did the Prop K people ever say the road was closed “half the year?” Just putting things in all caps doesn’t make them true.
In any event, everyone fully already had an opportunity for fact finding: the election. There were several months where each side had their chances to make their case to the voters and for journalists to fact check claims. That came after years of hearings and studies and appeals and arguing about this road. That’s the democratic system we’ve got: everyone has a chance to campaign for what they believe in, and then the voters decide. There’s not some additional “fact finding” process after that; the election campaign was already the time for all sides of the issue to make their cases. To argue otherwise is to render the whole idea of voter initiatives pointless.
You can’t read, we understand. It’s super tough being a YIMBY! You like being lied to, you pretend to care about the poor but don’t… I mean you got it rough friend.
When is Lucas Lux going to move back to where he came from and leave us alone? Take his billionaire political group charading as a community org with him.
This “go back to where you came from” talk sounds positively Trumpian.
Engardio’s lies and Billionaire backing sounds positively Trumpian, actually.
Reading his social media posts as well as his newsletters, he reminds me very much of Trump as well. The same narcissism, total lack of responsibility, and his need to greatly exaggerate what few accomplishments he’s made. And, of course, the big money he’s managed to pull together to stubbornly fight a recall he had no problem pushing when it came to two other elected city officials.
absolutely.
When your blinders and echo chamber lead to you creating fantasy to fit your narrative, you must have lots of crazy “realizations”. I’m old school SF left from before the tech invasion pushed SF to the right and caused all the problems they ironically complain about.
I am too. In the SF I grew up in, we didn’t tell people to go back where they came from. That kind of bigotry wasn’t what SF was about then and shouldn’t be ok now.
Learn how roads work.