A man in his 20s who sustained gunshot wounds during an argument on the corner of 24th and Shotwell streets was taken to the hospital with unknown injuries, according to three witnesses on the scene who asked that their names not be used for fear of retribution.
The incident occurred sometime after 5:30 p.m. and started after a group of men in their 20s had an argument with two other men who were standing across the street, witnesses said.
The two men shot five times at the group and hit the victim in his 20s twice, according to the witnesses.
Police collected shell casings in front of the Western Union at 993 Shotwell St, according to a police scanner twitter service.
The group of men who were with the victim as well as the suspects fled the scene. The victim, only described as a man in his 20s wearing a white shirt, ran southbound on Shotwell street before collapsing halfway down the block.
He was still conscious and moaning when he was carried away by the ambulance, a witness said.
We will update this story as we get more information.
i have no problem with the Police being at the 16th street plaza.
why post cops at the plaza for the last 6 months and not do it for the last 20 years?
i wellcome the Police present, people have been robbed , assaulted and killed around that area for years.
why the new police presence?
could it be that some rich developer wants to clean before they build those 2 luxury apartment buildings where Wallgreens and Burger King stores are?
If i was the mayor , i would had made the cops years ago walk the neighborhood everyday to have a more visible presence, not just stand at the plaza.
all those 20 something techies treat the neighborhood like a frat house, they get loaded on the weekends, they vomit and urinate in front of people’s houses, scream and yell after they leave bars at 2 am, they wake up people that already asleep , their lack of respect for other people and sense of entitlement , sucks.
The only vomiting and urinating I see in the mission is from homeless people.
Darn techie scum. This is what happens when programmers disagree over coding approaches.
I’m a Mission native born and bred, and it’s always had it’s fair share of violence as long as I can remember. I wish there wasn’t any, but there is.
I hope one day it does get better but not at the expense of changing the dynamic of the neighborhood. In other words making the Mission “white” does not solve the problem for anyone, except white people.
That’s not being racist, that’s being real.
As I see it, all these white 20 something transplants moving in, are only using the Mission because it’s the “Place to be” a fad that they will abandon and the folks that hung on and survived will have a new problem on their hands.
I am a native San Franciscan Mission resident myself but its not a question of White Vs. Brown. The reality is the gentrification is a part of life and it has been in every major city across the United States. So i should ask you this… would it be such a problem if it was Asians moving in or African Americans? Why does ethnicity matter? Neighborhoods change for good & bad & the Mission is fortunate that its a going thru a positive change. Whats wrong with that? Simply put would you rather be surrounded by thugs, criminals, and the bad elemant or whites in their 20s?
Sorry bro, but the mission has always been culturally diverse including whites,asians and blacks. It has been gentrifying for 20 years, which has helped reduce violence. But that gentrification has benefited everyone here, and it is also due to everyone, not just whites, etc.
Can you explain how gentrification has helped former residents who were involuntarily displaced?
For the record, I don’t mind if John chimes in. I know his writing comes off a bit as a character from Atlas Shrugged, but you guys should really be more tolerant of diverse POV’s. He’s basically a conservative democrat; what’s the big deal? It’s not like he’s a republican tea party loon. Just how far left has this city veered? I think SF can handle a few conservative democrats. Let’s be open minded!
I said it helps all current residents. There are way more existing mission residents (that are working class, low rent, minority, etc.) then those who left. And they all benefit from safer and cleaner streets. Gentrification is a net + for almost everyone. The few who were displaced….welcome to life as a renter (not owner), sorry it didn’t work out, that’s life in the big city, embrace change, etc., etc.
If you hold the situation of one person to be more important than the situation of tens of thousands of people, then readers can easily decide whether that is reasonable or extreme.
Yes to the first question. You base the rest of your questions on classist prejudices and unprovable assumptions.
Are you suggesting that gentrification is wrong if even just a single person gets a no-fault eviction? And even if life becomes better for tens of thousands?
And doesn’t the lost home of one person become the housing opportunity for another? Thereby creating dynamism and mobility where there might otherwise be sclerosis and stagnation?
Gentrification will displace some current residents. In fact, some are facing no fault evictions and landlord harassment as I write this comment.
Each trend has to be assessed in utilitarian terms i.e. the greatest benefit to the greatest number.
Clearly a small number of people may have relocated as a result of the neighborhood becoming more affluent. But then again they probably would have left long ago had they not lucked into a rent-controlled unit. That isn’t a sustainable subsistence.
But we have lower crime, better maintained homes, great stores, bars and restaurants and a confident, vital spirit pervading the neighborhood. The fact that a few people had to move somewhere more suited to their wallet doesn’t invalidate the benefits to the majority of us.
you are an asshat… Small number of people being relocated??? Go fuck yourself you imbecile. Hundreds of families that have been in The Mission probably since before you were born have lost their homes. The latino community has been displaced. But then all you probably know about the latino culture is how to order a soy burrito wrapped in an organic gluten , flour less tortilla sittino on a bed of sustainably rises organic arugula…
Crime has increased in The City since the new tech wave. http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/sf-sees-highest-crime-rate-since-2008/Content?oid=2636673
Well said
To your first, all comments here are public, so a question to one poster may be answered by any other poster here. That way you can potentially learn more.
Utilitarianism as formulated by John Stuart Mill was one of the major influences on the US Constitution and in particular, while majorities do have a higher moral imperative, we have enshrined protection for minorities as well.
Whether that minority is poor blacks or rich whites does not affect the principle. so while we already have so-called progressive taxation, it is not punitive or confiscatory on our winners.
Robin Hood is a cute story but if you tried that now, you’d be convicted of multiple felonies.
So on the basis of utilitarianism, you would support progressive taxation, or better yet, the Robin Hood solution, take from the (few) rich to give to the (many) poor? That provides the “greatest benefit to the greatest number.”
First, I addressed the question to p.a.m, not to you. Where are your manners?
Second, he wrote that gentrification benefits everyone, which is ridiculous on its face, despite your mumbo jumbo, classist rhetorical apologia.
So having more white people is too high a price to pay for getting rid of violence?
Poor ass…. Too bad a stray didn’t cap your ass
Fuck you, nigga.
If you cant make a valid point then you have no reason opening your big ignorant mouth.
Raging Nica that is…
Get out. You’re part of the problem.
Why do you advocate for these scum bags? They have no respect for you or your families wellbeing? All they do is cause trouble, peddle dope and create tension. Your a grade A dumb ass.
That’s a fucked up corner. I always see ghetto punks with white shirts hanging around. Police should crack down hard there, disperse these twats. Zero tolerance. But instead we have half the police force escorting some dumb white idiots protesting gentrification. Must have been 30 cops when that diatribe went on. waste.of.time.effort.
Protests against cops. Protests against buses. Protests against buildings. Will there be a protest against violence?
Do you live under a rock. There have been plenty peace marches on
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Thats not the point. Do you live on or near 16th st? I dont think so
Im specifically talking about the protest against the police presence in the plaza
What about protesting the scum bag gangbanging thugs who create this violence? No just protest the cops who are here to protect us…idiots
exactly
There was a protest against violence today. The 2nd Annual Archidiocese march from
St. Anthony’s to Mission Dolores with speakers (victims of violence) at 16th & 24th BART plazas. More can be done, of course… Takes a village, or as the United Playaz say, Takes the hood to save the hood.
KEEP THE MISSION BROWN!
Great way to start the conversation by inciting racism.
Fucking LOSER