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Commuters beware, another BART protest is scheduled for 5 p.m. tonight at the Civic Center station. We’ll be covering it live. Find out what’s happening here, alternative ways to get home and join the conversation.

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Hélène Goupil is a former editor at Mission Local who now works independently as a videographer and editor. She's the co-author of "San Francisco: The Unknown City" (Arsenal Pulp Press).

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  1. @shakeses:

    Oh we fully understand the protests are not about us. They are also not about Oscar Grant or anyone else.

    The protests are just about a bunch of anonymous cowards who feel the their need to express their opinions is more important than the rights of anyone else in society. The protests are nothing more than a thuggish effort to intimidate others.

    If you actually cared about Oscar Grant or any other issue, you would protest peacefully and work through the normal processes. But you are too self-righteous to do that. You think your opinions are more important than anyone else and that you can inconvenience anyone so that you can get up on you little soapbox

    Thank you for making clear that you don’t care about anyone but your self. And that your invocation of Oscar Grant is nothing more than a cover for your narcissism.

    The air of moral superiority you assert in your message is completely undermined by your contempt for everyone else in society. You, not the BART police, are the real threat to the rest of us.

  2. BART Police shutdown stations to protect protestors from disrupting service, makes sense. Never turn your back on a BART cop.

  3. And another thing; while bart shutting down cell service is problematic, it is only part of the point. The larger issue, the one that everyone seems hell bent on forgetting, is that 25 seconds after arriving onto a platform at civic center, a police officer shot and killed Charles Hill, whose only “crime”, by every account, was that he was wasted in public. 25 seconds was all it took.
    +fire these officers
    +take away their guns (not even subway cops in Mexico City have weapons)
    +and ultimately, disband the bart police

    it’s not over.

  4. I believe that there is a purpose to all this: “Issues of ideology and political effectiveness aside, the protests are exposing the practices that the police will utilize in urban areas if significant unrest erupts, shutting off electronic communications, shutting down transit service and relying upon the deployment of riot police in large numbers. All of this is done with the objective of fragmenting the protests, while inducing the apolitical public to blame the protesters for the disruption of their lives. In other words, the strategy is to intensify the chaos resulting from protest for the purpose of generating support for even more repressive measures. As they said of BART’s inspiration, Mussolini, he made the trains run on time, but, so far, it hasn’t done so. Hopefully, the Anonymous collective is learning through practical experience and developing a means to effectively confront it.”

    http://amleft.blogspot.com/2011_08_01_archive.html#1064766075086161617

    1. So, by your logic, by creating a civil disturbance, the protestors are showing how the police would respond to a disturbance with the purpose of blaming the protestors for creating a disturbance. Yeah, that makes sense. Thanks for spelling it out.

      1. No, BART and the SFPD are overreacting to a fairly small number of people in order to test out crowd control measures for future situations. The notion that all these stations had to closed is ludicrous, until you understand the real motivation, which has nothing to do with safety as I originally stated.

  5. Like schools sometimes use devices to block/jam cell service, doesn’t BART have the right to disable service inside the paid areas of the stations if public safety is at issue? They didn’t shut anyone’s service off. Any of those people could have gone to the surface and used their phones just fine. Unless I’m missing something here. (Besides, who can get a signal underground in the BART station anyway…?)

  6. This is pathetic. Why these morons continue to negatively impact the very people they’re ostensibly trying to get support from is beyond me. Unless, of course, they’re not really trying to change anything. I’ve said this before, this is primarily a social event for these folks. Any real progress towards their “goals” is secondary.

    1. No one is trying to “get support” from you. The kind of person who complains more loudly about inconvenience than about the deaths of people at the hands of the cops are not allies. It’s not about changing your mind or making you have an “A-ha moment”. It’s not about you at all. It’s about disrupting bart, again and again, so that they understand that people will not sit idly by while they a allow their police force to kill people like Charles Hill and Oscar Grant and then b) try to sweep it under the rug.

      The sooner people like you figure that out, the sooner you can get back to complaining about something else that inconveniences you.

      1. You may not want my support, but if you actually care about accomplishing anything you should. If not me, then the thousands of others you’ve “inconvenienced”, not to mention publishing their personal data. The point is your tactics are woefully ineffective and counter-productive. You’ve completely subverted any argument you may wish to make by punishing others arbitrarily – most of whom may potentially agree with you. Instead, you’ve created a narcissistic fantasy world in which you are a hero, fighting for justice. Too bad most everyone just thinks you’re a dick.

        1. It is not the Demonstrators that are shutting down platforms. It is the BART POLICE. It is not the demonstrators that are shutting off cellphone service, it is the BART POLICE. It is not the demonstrators that are “inconveniencing you, it is the BART POLICE.
          People have the right to demonstrate in this country, Although that “right” is now questionable with the recent arrests and statements by the BART POLICE. You do not have to agree with the demonstration. You should, as an American, support the right to free speech. That right is being taken away from us, by the Police, Government and other entities every day. Each day we do nothing about it, is another day that right gets weaker and weaker……….eventually left to die.

      2. You’re engaging in a kind of petty tyranny. You’ve singlehandedly decided that *your* concerns outweigh anyone else’s. You’ll shut down public transit and make everyone suffer because you’ve convinced yourself that their concerns are less important.

        Tell us your address and we’ll come picket your house, prevent you from leaving for work or school. If you complain, we’ll tell you we’re protesting Guantanamo, and that you’re a douchebag to complain about such a comparatively minor inconvenience.

        Why not go protest at Bart headquarters? Oh, right, because then you can’t be a bunch of petty tyrant douchebags imposing your will on thousands of innocent commuters.