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	<title>Comments on: Liquor Moratorium Continues to Divide Community</title>
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		<title>By: Charles</title>
		<link>http://missionlocal.org/2012/06/liquor-moratorium-continues-to-divide-community/comment-page-1/#comment-207587</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jun 2012 08:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it is more an anti drunk policy. This one trick pony of booze and food is boring. Any other innovative ideas out there?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is more an anti drunk policy. This one trick pony of booze and food is boring. Any other innovative ideas out there?</p>
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		<title>By: Maddalena</title>
		<link>http://missionlocal.org/2012/06/liquor-moratorium-continues-to-divide-community/comment-page-1/#comment-207455</link>
		<dc:creator>Maddalena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 20:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Please don&#039;t say that it&#039;s not your job to support business.  Business tax revenue is second only to property tax revenue (which businesses also pay) as a source of city funding.  This is completely unrelated to any discussion of liquor laws, a point on which we don&#039;t have to agree.  But we must have successful businesses for the city to continue to provide services.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please don&#8217;t say that it&#8217;s not your job to support business.  Business tax revenue is second only to property tax revenue (which businesses also pay) as a source of city funding.  This is completely unrelated to any discussion of liquor laws, a point on which we don&#8217;t have to agree.  But we must have successful businesses for the city to continue to provide services.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://missionlocal.org/2012/06/liquor-moratorium-continues-to-divide-community/comment-page-1/#comment-207426</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 19:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Glad to hear you finally admit you are an anti-business NIMBY.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to hear you finally admit you are an anti-business NIMBY.</p>
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		<title>By: suki</title>
		<link>http://missionlocal.org/2012/06/liquor-moratorium-continues-to-divide-community/comment-page-1/#comment-207387</link>
		<dc:creator>suki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 17:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And perhaps not. I like my apartment, But thanks for your concern!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And perhaps not. I like my apartment, But thanks for your concern!</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://missionlocal.org/2012/06/liquor-moratorium-continues-to-divide-community/comment-page-1/#comment-207382</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 17:15:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps Ingleside may work for you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps Ingleside may work for you.</p>
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		<title>By: suki</title>
		<link>http://missionlocal.org/2012/06/liquor-moratorium-continues-to-divide-community/comment-page-1/#comment-207374</link>
		<dc:creator>suki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 17:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a rote response, Adam. It&#039;s like you flipped open a Sunset magazine and cut-n-pasted a paragraph from their write-up of the Mission. 

Quiet neighborhoods in the Mission, huh? Where are they and how much? This is a trick question: I know- since I&#039;ve lived here for 22 years- where the quiet neighborhoods are. They&#039;re more expensive. And these days, they&#039;re getting absorbed into Noe Valley.

But that&#039;s beside the point. People don&#039;t need to move to accommodate commercial interests. I have an apartment I can afford. Why would I? It isn&#039;t in my financial best interests. 

&quot;People from everywhere who are attracted to the Mission&#039;s vitality&quot; are not likely to be turned off from coming into the Mission simply because of heated discussion in the comments section of newspapers,or community meetings OR by a ban on alcohol that&#039;s currently in place. 

Look what we got now with the ban. And with this discussion. Lots of out or towners. Lot&#039;s of other city residents. Lot&#039;s of you term &quot;vitality&quot; and lots of what I and others see as detrimental to the livability of the neighborhood. It&#039;s in the eye of the beholder, you know? 

Except the noise part. Go ahead and argue that uncontrolled noise is a health benefit.  Go find the study that shows that. I&#039;ll be waiting. 

To reflexively say that Mission residents who are organizing to get the response they need from city officials is anti-business(which is essentially your plaint) is a non-starter for an argument. It isn&#039;t my job to support businesses. And it overlooks and diminishes the dual nature of the Mission and by extension the city: it&#039;s both residential and commercial. Which one gets favored?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a rote response, Adam. It&#8217;s like you flipped open a Sunset magazine and cut-n-pasted a paragraph from their write-up of the Mission. </p>
<p>Quiet neighborhoods in the Mission, huh? Where are they and how much? This is a trick question: I know- since I&#8217;ve lived here for 22 years- where the quiet neighborhoods are. They&#8217;re more expensive. And these days, they&#8217;re getting absorbed into Noe Valley.</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s beside the point. People don&#8217;t need to move to accommodate commercial interests. I have an apartment I can afford. Why would I? It isn&#8217;t in my financial best interests. </p>
<p>&#8220;People from everywhere who are attracted to the Mission&#8217;s vitality&#8221; are not likely to be turned off from coming into the Mission simply because of heated discussion in the comments section of newspapers,or community meetings OR by a ban on alcohol that&#8217;s currently in place. </p>
<p>Look what we got now with the ban. And with this discussion. Lots of out or towners. Lot&#8217;s of other city residents. Lot&#8217;s of you term &#8220;vitality&#8221; and lots of what I and others see as detrimental to the livability of the neighborhood. It&#8217;s in the eye of the beholder, you know? </p>
<p>Except the noise part. Go ahead and argue that uncontrolled noise is a health benefit.  Go find the study that shows that. I&#8217;ll be waiting. </p>
<p>To reflexively say that Mission residents who are organizing to get the response they need from city officials is anti-business(which is essentially your plaint) is a non-starter for an argument. It isn&#8217;t my job to support businesses. And it overlooks and diminishes the dual nature of the Mission and by extension the city: it&#8217;s both residential and commercial. Which one gets favored?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://missionlocal.org/2012/06/liquor-moratorium-continues-to-divide-community/comment-page-1/#comment-207369</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There are MANY other parts of San Francisco for those seeking more &quot;calm and quiet&quot;. People from everywhere are attracted to the Mission&#039;s vitality and come here to dine and socialize.  This fact provides enormous economic benefits by generating jobs for locals and revenue for a city struggling with deficits.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are MANY other parts of San Francisco for those seeking more &#8220;calm and quiet&#8221;. People from everywhere are attracted to the Mission&#8217;s vitality and come here to dine and socialize.  This fact provides enormous economic benefits by generating jobs for locals and revenue for a city struggling with deficits.</p>
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		<title>By: suki</title>
		<link>http://missionlocal.org/2012/06/liquor-moratorium-continues-to-divide-community/comment-page-1/#comment-207357</link>
		<dc:creator>suki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No one is talking about prohibition. We&#039;;re talking about keeping a ban in place, which, should our perspective prevail, will not affect the functioning of hundreds of alcohol-dispensing restaurants and bars and corner markets.They will still be in business.

It&#039;s funny how freaked out people get when they think their alcohol is going to be taken away from them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one is talking about prohibition. We&#8217;;re talking about keeping a ban in place, which, should our perspective prevail, will not affect the functioning of hundreds of alcohol-dispensing restaurants and bars and corner markets.They will still be in business.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny how freaked out people get when they think their alcohol is going to be taken away from them.</p>
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		<title>By: suki</title>
		<link>http://missionlocal.org/2012/06/liquor-moratorium-continues-to-divide-community/comment-page-1/#comment-207354</link>
		<dc:creator>suki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[P.S. I moved here for one reason: I could afford it. 
Think about that for a while.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S. I moved here for one reason: I could afford it.<br />
Think about that for a while.</p>
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		<title>By: suki</title>
		<link>http://missionlocal.org/2012/06/liquor-moratorium-continues-to-divide-community/comment-page-1/#comment-207348</link>
		<dc:creator>suki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jun 2012 16:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tom, I couldn&#039;t agree more. Please see my rebuttal to David&#039;s &quot;nimby&quot; remark above.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom, I couldn&#8217;t agree more. Please see my rebuttal to David&#8217;s &#8220;nimby&#8221; remark above.</p>
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